Fugashin is similar: the two are competitors in Vietnam. I was very impressed with the integrity of your website after reading IS THIS AN ADVERT? Pretty good fit, but I need a kilty for some of the volume while new, will probably break in more and be able to be cinched down better over time. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. Would you have any insight into the quality of the GC ready to wear versus C&J handgrade please? EL, I think you kind of answered the question in your first statement. Alden Barrie 9D: Slightly snug, still comfortable, but my least favorite Alden last so far. 8UK was much too loose. Cnes also has great hand-welted shoes too, about 350 I believe, which look a lot more expensive.. I started out with Allen Edmunds because they offer reasonably priced shoes (for Americans) with decent quality. Do you guys size down or buy your standard Carmina size? Alden Plaza 9.5D: One of best fitting lasts, feels great. AE has excellent customer service to this day. Really good customer service is important to me and is one of the things that keeps me going back. In India there is Bridlen (below), which makes a very solid, classic-looking shoe. I have covered Vass and TLB Artista before. Carminas guidance is down by half for shell or for unlined , in all lasts. For a reasonable upcharge, you can select any of their basic designs and pick your own choice of last, leather, and sole options. Our builds will give about .25 size in the long run, on average. By far the highest quality of any of the brands on this list (and in my opinion, the most elegant lasts). These are sockless only. I have a pair of Chelsea boots by Sanders, bought at John Rushtons. Bought before I understood my size. Meermin US UK Narrow. It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. Related/unrelated, I find myself in flux style wise right now in the early stages of coming out of Covid. Id advise anyone whos a fan of RTW Northampton and Spanish shoes to go to the source and/or their stockists. I found it a source of much misinformation. The only major disadvantage compared to Goodyear is that the stitches come through on the inside of the shoe. The insoles also havent molded to the shape of my foot as I would expect by this point. Its just a selection of brands, and focus were on cheaper shoes than J. FitZpatrick (although he has a new lower-priced range coming). Actually, given the reader survey we did last year and how much the average reader earns and spends, I wouldnt be surprised if most do spend that regularly on their shoes. I have dainite soled storm welted trickers penny loafers and also commando soled stows, and I cant see myself wearing them much with anything aside from jeans or super casual chinos/corduroys. When I do, Im a repeat customer (for instance, narrow EG 202 Chelseas) but my narrow feet preclude me from buying most brands shoes. 4 3 3 comments Best Add a Comment hjordan28141 2 yr. ago second chance thread), https://www.instagram.com/sartorially_inclined/, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/wholecut-boots-black-boxcalf-80518, Carmina Green Shell Cordovan Frankenstitch Captoe Jumper Boot 10.5eee(uk) detroit last, RM Williams Comfort Craftsman or Carmina (Rain Last) Chelsea, *SOLD* Carmina Bourbon Shell Cordovan NST boot 8UK Forest last, Alden Color 4 Shell Cordovan Chukkas - Barrie last size 10 D, Alden x Leffot Saddle Shoe - Unglazed Cigar Shell Cordovan and Snuff Suede - 8D Barrie Last. Interesting. 2. A pair of EG Chelseas bought today are just as good as a pair bought ten years ago as will be a pair bought in ten years time. I found a pair on sale for about $100 more than those, however, so I figured I'd give them a try. Viberg 2030: 10 - Good fit. Cnes (above), for example, has been exhibiting in various fairs around Europe, looking for retailers, and is very nicely made, with a bevelled waist and otherwise refined make. Thanks, which makes them a bit of a bargin at the moment with 20% off. Ostmo Moe 43.5: Tried these on and this was a bang on size. As someone who has handled or owned several of these brands I thought it would be helpful to offer my experience, anecdotal though it may be. For a RTW offering, without additional charge, that is a massive advantage for anyone wary of shelling out for MTM alternatives, and I would have expected something worth telling readers. Good arch support, toe box is low, but not too low, and just an all around comfy fit from day 1. Thanks Robin. Lots of toe room and good heel feeling. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. Could not find info. Seems to be a popular thing to write now. I have this problem as well. Very comfortable throughout the midfoot. It might be somewhat boring, but the greatest shoe design can be quite a disappointment when theres puckering on seams, marks on the leather or misaligned stitching. I do appreciate your recommendations to other blogs/websites/magazines as its not always easy to spot good work in the vast numbers of style websites. Worn with normal dress socks. I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. Any other top level comments will be deleted. and the results for the money where quite good.at a distance, you could mistake them for Berluti, at 1/4 the price. I dont know anybody who owns a Mont Blanc wallet, but I know plenty of people who own Mont Blanc pens, and I dont see that ever changing. I absolutely could not go a half-size down. It's been a while, but I didn't have any complaints after break in. So yes, you get more durable suede shoes higher up in the price ranges. Same thing is true at a luxury level. Very nice article. Thing is that, not referring to Berluti necessarily now, but we do see a number of very famous bespoke shoemakers, not least in England, who the past years have started to put out shoes that arent properly made and/or have a proper fit. I guess you get what you pay for but this level of quality for the leather should be mentioned. Viberg 2030E 8.5: Good to great fit, but depends on the year and the run. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. * **Oriental Shoemaker unknown oxford last** 8.5US is comfortable but instep is too low. Meermin shoes are cool and stylish as well, but, they are however not as stylish and cool as the Carmina shoes that are distributed in this present moment. The only running shoes for me. (Vibergs cxl is different to Thursday boots cxl.). Crocketts uses good quality raw materials, particularly the upper, but the make is a bit simpler. I think shoegazing is largely irrelevant since the information it provides can be gathered more reliably elsewhere. Made in Spain. How to measure your feet. But its a not a secret that English brands, in general (this for example does not go for the premium brands) use less good leather soles than Spanish and Italian makers of welted shoes, in general. They both have a very knowledgeable blog dedicated to shoes. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. But now I can confidently say this was the right choice and it is worth breaking that arch in to get fit and support of this level. You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? I would note that although the shoes I own have tight sole stitching, C&J models without pinking on the soles (for example, the Sydney with rubber soles) are noticeably less sleek. I can fully close the lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. Carmina shoes are stylish, fashionable, chic, and very good-looking. I appreciate it doesnt work for everyone geographically, but most of the famous English brands are still manufactured in the Northampton region. Indeed, stylistically they are even quite close. To me, they have been 100% worth the money. So my true size is an 11.5, in most American boots I'm an 11, and all my boots with European sizing (like Tricker's) are a 10.5. I have Meermin boots and happy with the quality. You are using an out of date browser. Is there a reason for that? It was a bit controversial, I remember some who felt pinpointed argued quite strongly against it. Nick horween has spoken at length about this, so shell cordovan chromexcel etc are technically corrected grain. Customers love the shape of the Almond Toe-Boxes of Meermin shoes Many believe that that design adds well to the elegance of the shoes. The leather feels like a glove and is truly unlined (to the extent that the uppers almost collapse under their own weight), unlike Carminas unlined shoes which dont feel all that different from normal lined shoes. Many thanks for your prompt response most helpful. You are using an out of date browser. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. Fit seemed good at first but toe box is just too narrow for extended wear. I also had disappointing experiences with Myrqvists quality. About 4 or 5 years ago, I naively bought a pair of Loake Shoemakers and the quality was very poor. I could wear these with my really thick winter socks if I wanted to. The quality of the leather isnt as good as Crockett and Jones, but is far superior to my Barker and Loake shoes. Interesting times and personal style journey. I wear 9EE in AE (65 last) and want to try carminas. Parkhurst 18 Last 9D: Too narrow, should have gone TTS. In fact at some point I wondered whether you were being protectionist of Northampton makers by apparently shunning AE, but then I could not see anywhere else that could be like you. Would be interesting to hear. This is the next level down of Spanish brands, more on a par with the Swedish start-ups in terms of quality, but much bigger organisations. Some of it is differences in leather and lined vs unlined, but a lot of it is lasting differences. With 10.5D, my feet are usually swimming in the shoe. I have also tried on shoes from Yanko and Septieme Largeur. Theyre both very big brands now.. Last shape feels similar to Parkhurst 10 and Viberg 9.5, except toe is slightly longer and more tapered, heel is snugger, and it's much roomier throughout the instep. The Rain 7.5EEE was okay but not great - more tight than comfortably snug, and I'm not sure if they would break in well for me. I have really been liking many of your posts for this season. Parkhurst 602 Last 9D: Fit well off the bat, little to no break-in. Will never purchase from that brand again. Its a good time to be a consumer in this area.. CNES has a larger range of casual shoe styles off the rack but Fugashin is more refined with better hand details and more elegant last shapes. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. A couple of corrections on your US list Simon. Carmina Simpson 8.5UK: Tried for oxfords but had to return, instep was too low for closed lacing. If I may add to this discussion, i recently purchased a pair of burgundy penny loafers from morjas. Meermin Hiro: 10D (9UK), I can walk miles in these in thin/medium socks but would strongly prefer more toe room. You must log in or register to reply here. A very nice pair of black cap toes on the Eton last but far to hard to break in. Herringshoes.com). We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Still a well-made shoe, but too much spent on marketing and retail. Slightly low instep and volume. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. The last is generally nicer, finer finishing elements are nicer, fewer corners are cut in certain areas, etc. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. Throughout this commentary from Jesper, its worth keeping in mind that some of the points are objective, some more subjective. Surprisingly minimal break-in but it's been a long time. But have you ever disclosed your so called financial situation regarding your reviews you dont pay full price if any price for all these garments you have made for yourself, correct? Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. For what its worth Joshua, (with plenty of experience of both) I wouldnt necessarily consider C&J a step up from Trickers. HIRO 9: Terrible fit. Both these shoes are true to size, but Carminas are however more fitting and properly sized than the Meermin shoes. Its a last designed to accommodate a range of foot shapes and I was able to comfortably wear them from day 1 with my preferred boot socks. Avoid if you have a low instep or wide feet. Way too narrow and painful all around, last too tapered for my taste. Eastman MiM Camp moc in CXL: 10.5D, took months to stretch but fit amazingly barefoot or with thin to medium thick socks now. Their online interface is very easy to use, and being able to make these selection is so much better than being constrained to the ready-made options a manufacturer has selected. The toe length isn't excessive either. Id be interested to see a reference for the made in Asia comment in the article. I have found myself not liking the current 2021+ year make of the 2030 in 8.5 The changes have kind of fudged the instep for me right at the tongue seam. I have to say from personal experience I found Berwick to be the most incredible value. Comfy fit. Meermin shoes are classy shoes that are just so unbelievably functional and cost-effective for the price that they come for. 9US is too generous, * **Red Wing 8 last (iron ranger)** 8.5D a bit snug on the sides of the mid foot, might've gotten away with 8.5E, * **Rider Boot 42 last** 9D comfortable fit, but lowish instep at the top makes it hard to put them on without shoehorn, * **RM Williams Comfort Craftsman** 8G with a little heel slip, * **TLB Mallorca Alan** 8F UK generous without being overly roomy. Vans Old Skool/Era: 11D, solid out of the box. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. And all the time there are new makers trying to offer quality for a little less, for a saving of 50 perhaps - or trying to up their quality at the same price. Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. This helped me understand why sizing as 10D was actually very bad advice and never worked out well. Red Wing 8 last 9D: Decent fit at first, fairly comfortable once broken in. When changing the width of a shoe e.g. Left foot was okay. These classy are built for the ultimate style, comfort, functionality, and elegance of the elite. Viberg 2030D 9: The 9D is probably the best fit I have from Viberg, or tied with the 2040. Very comfortable, great instep for oxfords, * **Trickers W2298** 8UK a bit tight at the toes, perfectly snug everywhere else, * **Trickers 4444** 8UK tiny bit of heel slip, fits like a dream at the ball, * **Thomas George Jackas** 7.5UK a bit roomy. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. Heel to ball fits much like Barrie 9.5D, with a tiny bit more volume, but toe box tapers more sharply from both sides. Baker's recommended 8.5D, but I think I would have been happier with 9D. Youre right, the second pair are a little more casual, but I think either would be OK and personally I prefer the shorter apron of the former. I just had the opportunity to try on some Carminas in store. A lot of new brands have been popping up in recent years, too, especially in Asia, and they often feature impressive specs for the price. I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. New product releases, daily discussion and community building with a common interest in quality footwear. Red Wing 8 9D: decent fit. I would also recommend Thomas George Collection (based in Melbourne) and Crownhill Shoes (Spain), two quality brands who sit at the same price range of Morjas/Velasca and they do great bang for the bucket GW Shoes. Best fitting shoe I own, after a couple wears I can sport these for 20 miles with no hotspots. The fact is that Cheaney have one flagship store and the vast bulk of their business is on line whilst JL are paying for expensive locations and staff explains all at the end of the day its not so complicated. or to put it another more childish way, you started it! American brands seem to be better at this (Alden, AE). "The quality control isnt quite as good as the English as well.. The shoe comes on Meermin's Ama last, which is of a classic and elegant shape. Thanks for your efforts! Cheers Adam, and very pleased thats the case. They've seen a lot of rain, snow, slush and worst of all, salt. 1757 last 10D: Great roomy fit as I recall from trying in a store over a year ago. Carmina Inca Chukka - 10 UK. But whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. are priced above the equivalent Allen Edmonds, usually at an Alden equivalent price. If one do good research ahead of placing an order (not just go by brand names and heritage, doesnt work anymore in the bespoke shoe world), choose a brand that suits ones style and preferences for shoes, the chance youll get your best shoes ever are very high. There are many places out there that have discussions about shoe sizing across brands and lasts, but I wanted to get a thread started here as well. Thursday Captain 9D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. Nike Memeshots: 11D, narrow in the forefoot but fine after a week or two. It hails from Meermin's Classic Collection, which is the less expensive of the two lines, at 160euro/pair (or roughly $205). Putting that all aside, what do you think is the difference between mid-range makers (e.g. Own a pair of derby shoes in the last now. And it seems like, that level of service pervades the company. Having a shorter HTT than HTB allows me to wear it 1 down from by brannock. Carmina shoes have soles that are durable and very comfortable in their design, due to the Goodyear Welt construction used to hold them in place. First impressions tell us most of what we need to know about certain products. The EG just feel better than both ever did straight out of the box, but Im not sure how psychological that is! Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. Do you think there is a difference in comfort? Most of my shoes are Crockett & Jones because of the great customer service and the consistent quality. I dont think it is available outside of Japan though. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. It is good with athletic socks. Not a thick sock last. You have aimed at a balance of smart casual, RTW / MTM / bespoke really useful and affordable; you have catered for all. I must admit, my original motivations were more around my budget limitations, but I think I am also strangely more attached to them having visited the factory (the same site since their manufacturing started in the late 19th century) and learnt about their provenance. I still end up with shoes that are markedly higher quality than the vast majority of whats sold, and the more reasonable prices allow me to accumulate a broader range of options. The nicest pair of shoes I own is a pair of JM Weston oxfords (from their main line, not the Blake line), and I have to work to tell the difference between the two (Weston has shaped heels, for example). Viberg 110: Last is shorter than other service boot lasts. Its a smidge roomy, but I don't believe going an extra half down would have worked and I prefer boots to be worn with boot socks. Free shipping for many products! Meermin Burgundy Oxford Shoe || Men's US 8 UK 7 E. $50.00 + $32.48 shipping. Can add that you can find a review of Carlos Santos here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/. Arch support was a bit painful the first wear but feels great after a few hours. These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and Carmina (above) coming to prominence in the past 10 years. Try Saphir Shoe-Eze, it actually works. Crockett & Jones (bench grade): I own the Alex (wholecut on 348 last). Dress socks. Ive never been sure if I am just more accepting of shoe prices or if I am proportional as I bulk at the idea of spending 400 on a jumper but happy to buy C&J main line. The shoe also felt very light, like it was cheaply constructed. The honesty of the first 4 paragraphs bring home why , having read this blog for 8 years, at times it feels less relevant to myself . Alden Trublanace 9D: Far more volume than I need and a lot of play side to side in the ankle area but certainly comfortable. Oak Street Bootmakers Elston 9.5D: Only tried on, seemed like a good fit, but the boots went back for a return. There is no question that the 2 pairs of EGs I have are simply fantastic and of higher quality that CJ and Carmina. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. Thanks for the response. I think it makes sense for C&J to stick to making shoes and not running shops. Lets be honest here, what can you realistically expect from a 250 pair of leather shoes made in Europe, when a pair of sneakers produced under questrionable conditions in some third world country already cost as much if not more? One of the biggest such sites in the world, it receives up to 500,000 page views a month. Although classed as subs, most of the time you would be hard pushed to see why. Where C&J excels is in the breath of their offering, but the overall quality wouldnt differ significantly between the two. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. I got tired of my usual worn brands price development and wanted to see if it is possible to find decent shoes under 300 Euros, which in my eyes is in no way cheap. Even with a tongue pad, facings fully come together throughout the instep. Reply below with your sizing in any lasts you own/have experience with. Jesper concludes by saying: You cant expect to get a really premium shoe for an entry-level price, and you shouldnt get too excited at places that promise that. Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? 1 down the toe could be getting very short. High volume last with somewhat narrow toe box. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'footslide_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_6',108,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-4-0');The top-grade Shell Cordovan Leather material used to make Carmina shoes is surely one of the best in the world for dress shoes. It is relatively easy to find them discounted, Apologies if this question is in the wrong place. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'footslide_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_13',107,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-3-0');Let us see what Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes look like at first glance: One of the most elegant shoes out there today is the Carmina shoes. Im a regular customer of both Jermyn Street shops and the customer service Ive consistently experienced over many years has been exceptionally good, significantly better than Ive experienced in some other, more expensive establishments that will be well known to readers of this blog. This I find quite interesting, since you certainly arent the only one. Snug in thick socks. Jack, I havent looked at Weston in quite a while Im afraid Jack, but from what I remember they are around that kind of level, yes. Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. Great stitch density and overall construction for a GYW loafer that normally runs 160 euros. Crocketts and Carmina are in there largely for context, as mentioned. Theres a lot of marketing in this entry-level market: everyone says their shoes are handcrafted, using the best materials.. to my eye, both look too large for you based on these pics. My issue with C&J is that the range of G fits has been reduced significantly. Carmina Forest Oxford and Blucher - 9.5 UK. I wear chup socks with all of my shoes and boots these days, but for some of these I wore Darn Tough crew light or Darn Tough cushioned boot socks. As for Northampton shoes they are still great value if you buy in the sale or go to the factory shops. I wrote an article about it many years ago on the Swedish version of Shoegazing (before English was launched) which, to summarise, had the conclusion that its down to vanity. Some of the best dress shoes that you can get with your money today are the Carminas and the Meermins. The price range for Meermin loafers is $165 for women and $175 for men. Allen Edmonds 511 9.5D: Seemed like a bad fit or just poorly lasted. Thankfully, that isnt true of all high end companies that Ive experienced and, in general, I have found that the quality of the service matches that of the product. Their last is made for the Japanese feet, which are flatter in general with a smaller heel. I have experienced Cheaney a fair bit, my first two pairs of English shoes were from Cheaney main line (I still have one of them), plus I have worn Cheaneys imperial range as well as C&J mainline shoes. While not terribly drastic, this feature requires a bit more toe box space. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. For reference, previous sizing threads 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 for extra data points. To be honest, I wasnt impressed. If I could make a bespoke last from these shoes I would. They can be found on many websites for less than 300( e.g. People need to understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time, especially when theyre taken care of properly. Closed lacing a few mm shy of coming together on day one. Particularly I struggle with the heel which I find very wide with most English makers. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes. Viberg 2030E 9: Specifically for the Halketts which have a trimmed waist and slight pattern changes these are okay in a half size up with boot socks. I have 3 pairs of meermin and they are not hard to break in (aside from heel). Fast worldwide deliveries; 14 day returns; . Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. Dont buy both together though do buy one then the other, just to make sure you do like that style and fit etc. From time to time you find great deals for +/- USD 600. Also Barkers at the 1880 price point are made in the UK. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. Both these shoemakers offer value far and a way above a UK shoe at a similar price point so they really are worth a look for a person prepared to put in the effort. Joseph Cheaney are undoubtedly the thinking flaneurs cordonnier. Of course choice is more limited, and its more pot luck, but who doesnt love a bargain? 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