Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother." Romans 15:1 Verse Concepts Now we who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those without strength and not just please ourselves. Did anything frighten you this morning? Assembly Of God. Sermon by Rick Crandall Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. Go beyond what's fair. Also, and I am not downing what you say, as you obviously have many wonderful people reading your blog, these women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. Bushnell Assembly of God In the videos Ive viewed, there are only women involved (with the exception of the camera guys and the lighting guys.) Thank you, Michelle! Opening Prayer. And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. Notice the emphasis around the 1:37 mark on peoples personal experiences (praying for miracles, etc.) Though the consequences of the sin of instructing men may not appear to be severe, it is just as much of a sin as any other sin you can think of: adultery, lying, stealing, drunkenness, and so on. 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: Exegesis is taking a passage of Scripture in context, and leading out of it- teaching what the passage means. Unfortunately, Word Press doesnt show me that kind of thing until after Ive published my own comment. I read myself into scripture, too! Ive subscribed to both for several years, so I can tell you thats not the kind of writing they do (though Challies did feature and link to Aimee Byrds review of Fervent in his 12/21/15 A La Carte segment). rather than on the Bible. Going Beyond the Bible by Colin Morris. August 11, 2002 AM She also teaches false doctrine (things that either are at odds with Scripture or arent in Scripture at all) and partners with other false teachers (people who teach false doctrine). Neil Richardson has proposed that instead of getting back to the Bible we should go forward with the Bible. Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. Matthew 14:15-16. The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. read more, Scripture: I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. Im not sure if youre referring to Beths inclusion of Catholicism, or both Beths and Priscillas joining with people who subscribe to Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) false doctrine. But Jesus said unto them, They need not I am a born again Christian. If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. Copyright 2003-2023 | Outreach, Inc., All rights reserved. Beth and Priscilla both disobey this biblical instruction. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. Let's find out as we begin this study in discernment, Choose What Is Right. No mention of sitting in silence or listening here nor in any of the other passages in which the Bible teaches about prayer. Parables were a common form of teaching in Judaism ( to lead us to self-examination) (https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx) (oops~ this is a Catholic reference~ how bout this one: Paul is quite clearthat people who preach another gospel are accursed, or damned, and that we are not to partner with them. Your objection is most likely answered here. on Fighting for the Faith, True Woman Conference Speaker Priscilla Shirer Hears Gods Still, Small Voice at Apprising Ministries, Priscilla Shirer and Contemplative/Centering Prayer at Apprising Ministries, He Speaks to Me (April 24, 2008) promo video by Priscilla Shirer, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMattersat Berean Research, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude by Chris Rosebrough, Priscilla Shirer- Mystic by David Sheldon, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017at Emergent Watch, Priscilla Shirerat Fighting for the Faith, Fervent Warning on Priscilla Shirerat Christian Answers for the New Age, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2 at The End Time, War Room: A Review by Justin Peters at Worldview Weekend, Stand Firm: A Review of War Room at Satisfaction Through Christ, Reblogged this on Seth Dunn and commented: (Im also about 90% Reformed if you didnt get a chance to look at my statement of faith page.). If our feelings, opinions, or experiences contradict Gods word, then those feelings, experiences, and opinions are wrong and we need to repent and believe Gods word instead. ), The Treasure You Already Are | Priscilla Shirer | [at Joyce Meyers] Love Life Womens Conference 2013, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why Christine Caine Is at the Top of Her List at the Christian Post, Priscilla Shirer recommends Joyce Meyer, Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, etc., Bible studies on her blog at Going Beyond, Priscilla Shirer speaks at Joyce Meyers womens conference alongside false teachers Joyce Meyer, Lisa Harper, and Sarah Jakes Roberts (T.D. I have attempted plenty of times to contact people like Priscilla Shirer. #3- There are a couple of links in the additional resources section that deal with Priscillas teaching of contemplative prayer, but I really should have included one in the paragraph itself, so Ive fixed that. Can you explain ? Id encourage you not to take my word for it, but to examine the evidence against Scripture (in context, of course) for yourself. People who are genuinely born again have a hunger and thirst for studying the truth of Gods word and growing in Christ. (HaHaHa~ I KNOW Im going to be asked about this one by the ladies in our study. And to top that all off, shes beautiful and sharp as a tack. Go beyond by faith. Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. Maybe Im misunderstanding you, but it sounds like youre saying, Im going to Heaven and thats enough for me. Thank you again. He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic. If youre not familiar with the false teachers cited below, click the Popular False Teachers and Unbiblical Trends tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page. (Edited to add- After I posted this comment, I noticed your comment was addressed to Seth Dunn, not to me. I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, I've done this so that you can learn what it means not to go beyond what has been written and so none of you will become arrogant by supporting one of us against the other. Second, almost without exception, every female Bible teacher I know of who unrepentantly instructs men also teaches other doctrinal error (usually Word of Faith, New Apostolic Reformation or seeker driven false doctrine). Reblogged this on queeninchrist's Blog and commented: :0). These are sources Im familiar with and consider doctrinally sound, but if someone digs up an article one of them wrote from ten years ago that says something biblically askew, I obviously do not endorse that.) Jude 18-19. Astonished Beyond Measure What Priscilla and so many others do is pretty much the opposite of a parable. How is this different? Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. Or will we apply extra effort and go beyond our duty? 3And I will make thee swear by Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 You should bring these points about Shirer up to your pastor if her studies are being pushed in your church. She does teach and preach to men whether I say she does or not. (Also, their main genre is apologetics, not discernment.) Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (February 18, 2021) Priscilla speaks at Christine Caines Propel Womens Conference. Often, when readers express their disagreement, they do so in a very vicious and attacking way, so I really appreciate it when someone politely expresses herself. Our Ladies Bible Study started a new season on January 5 with Priscilla Shires Armor of God. Jakes daughter), Priscilla Shirers promo page at Hillsong, Priscilla Shirer, featured speaker at Hillsongs 2016 Colour ConferencewithBrian Houston, Bobbie Houston, andChristine Caine. Or and be .. Hope this helps, and thanks for the comment :0). Morning Service TEXT: Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. I think youll also find my article Is She a False Teacher? "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts. Grayson Baptist Church - July 28, 2013 As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? And the only way to do that is to not only study/read the Word of God in its *entirety* but believe and apply it. You decide. Please see the links to our EXTRA Bible Study notes at the bottom of the page. If they ever do an article on her, I will add it to my list of resources here. 52-week preaching calendar to help you plan your sermons, Customizable sermon manuscripts for verse-by-verse preaching, Preach with creativity and impact throughout the year, [NEW YEAR] 4-Week Series to kick off 2023, [PRODUCTIVITY] Fulfill your full potential, [FOUNDATIONS] Getting back to what matters most. Verse 13. FOCAL POINT: TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS MUST AVOID. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. There is only ONE requirement for salvation, and that is accepting that Jesus Christs blood took the place of our sin, recognize our sin and confess it, believe that Jesus is Gods son. Indeed, we were the first to reach you with the gospel of Christ. God doesnt limit to a select few the number of Christians who are able to grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus the way He limited entrance to the Promised Land. It does NOT say, and be baptist. Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. God knew what He was doing. Weve got to act on what the Bible says, not our own opinions. Their focus is on Christian living type articles, not discernment (which is certainly fine, everybody has his own genre). Now, I believe I have clearly answered all of your questions both here, in the article, and in the Additional Resources section, so let me add just one extra thing. You are an intelligent woman. She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Tooat Surphs Side. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! You know, your making this comment right now is very interesting timing. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? CEB Brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit. 1 Because you seem to be arguing against the biblical truth youve already read and have rejected reading any of the further biblical teaching Ive referred you to. Id be interested, too! Christianity and Adversity: Corona Virus and a Faith Based approach And because of those issues, I deeply regret that I am not able to recommend her as I would like to. Like The Gospel Coalition, CARM, Tim Challies, etc?) Hummm. Although that interpretation of the text is a possibility, being consistent with the rest of Scripture, it is by no means certain. ), partnering with false teachers (thank you for noting this! I can tell that just from your comment. but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. It just says dont. Period. After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. 3. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective. First,this is a sin. GOING BEYOND THE DUTY CALL AND WHAT IS EXPECTED! The law in this case, being Scripture. Heres why. Before I address some of your specific concerns, two things: First, thank you for the kind and civil tone of your comment. Plus, she has a Bible and supposedly knows it well enough to teach it. If a woman is supposedly knowledgeable enough about the Bible to be in the position of teaching and authoring, yet doesnt understand or obey such a basic biblical truth, what does that say about the rest of her knowledge of the Bible? It was stated, that the big name pastors are no where to be found when standing against these deceptions. (This is where the video above ends. Far too often we just "go through the motions" in life but Jesus wants much more than this for our lives. 2. My heart longs for you to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ by learning the truth of His word. Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. You may not agree with all of these points, but there is enough here to indicate that you should be very wary of getting involved with Priscilla Shirer studies. It will help you better understand biblical discernment and the fact that Jesus, Paul, John, Jude and others were pretty negative when it came to false teachers, too! We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture. As Christians, we are to follow and obey Gods written word, the Bible, not our own opinions. Do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. I CANT FIGURE THIS ONE OUT! Thats why I said may have been. Whether that particular moment in time was, in fact, the moment that Priscilla was introduced to false doctrine and false teachers can be debated, but the fact of the matter is that she came under the influence of false teachers at some point and still unequally yokes herself to them and teaches false doctrine today. There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. I dont want to lead us astray ). Well, technically, this article would fall under the category of discernment, but yes, I guess you could say Im into apologetics as all Christians are called to be :0). Could it be that, as Ms. Shirer, writes in the book Fervent once again Satan is working to confuse and stir up evil among believers? I thought Jesus used parables as a means of illustrating profound, divine truths. A NIGHTMARE ON DESERT STREET! THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN TO AN ANONYMOUS CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO APPEARS TO OPEN HER HOME TO BELIEVERS FOR WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP. Throughout She has no control over who reads her blogs. All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. That must have been before she asked for (and received) her pastors and husbands permission to teach men in her Sunday School class. #2- There are a number of resources on false teachers under the Popular False Teachers tab at the top of this page. Can you please provide a list of female speakers/writers whom you do recommend? This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season. And besides all these big names, arent just claiming to over see a church, they are writing New York best sellers, etc. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry Also, the small sources dont have skin in the book and lecture circuit game. 1 Samuel 30:6-8, Denomination: I would love for you to hang out with us here at the blog and/or on social media (links at the top of this page). No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. Either way, while it is fine to fellowship and join with people of other denominations who hold to biblical doctrine (I have plenty of friends, and listen to plenty of teachers, outside of my own denomination, but they all teach and conduct themselves in line with the Bibles teachings. 2 JOHN You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). Bible Verses about 'Beyond'. Where does the Bible teach this? 3. Hi Lisa- I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help answer your questions and give you a biblical understanding of womens roles in the church. Pink Impact ConferencePriscilla joined with faith healing apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation, Todd White, as well as false teachers Christine Caine, Lisa Harper, and Pastor Debbie Morris. (Yikes!). Do you send women to your articles as a response?. and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. God bless you, and keep up the good work sister! There are two sources for fear: when we are caught up in something we did not count on, and when we are not in control. she said what she means by that is, to see biblical womanhood flourish would be a great joy! Contributed by Wade Martin Hughes, Sr on Sep 22, 2016 | 5,774 views This is a two part lesson as we consider are we going along que sera, sera? I think you are judging and do not agree with you. Hey brother Saiko Woods! Then please feel free to ask Id be glad to help you or look it up. I would recommend reading the book reviews and listening to the sermon reviews. All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. Jonah 2:10. 15 Outstanding Quotes To Recharge Your Preaching. Jesus had employed many graphic analogies using common things that would be familiar to everyone (https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-parables.html). That is not what the Bible says that preachers and teachers are to do. 2:57- Do you know that of the original two million Jewish people only two actually ever made it? Having just heard what efforts even St. Paul had to make to run in the Christian race, and how terribly their fathers in the wilderness had failed to meet the requirements of God, they might be inclined to throw up every effort in despair. This article is kept continuously updated as needed. We are to go beyond encouragement. Yes it is the little people or the less known that are standing against these deceptions and I am so glad that you are and there are many more. Introduction Go beyond what's familiar. read more, Scripture: The last verse was a warning; this is an encouragement. Your defense of Moore and Shirer is based only on your own experiences and opinions. Thanks so much for your comment. Esther 4:16 fasting. Id recommend starting with Rock Your Role FAQs #11, then moving on to Jill in the Pulpit. Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. My previous comment with the links was in answer to questions that you asked. Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you. It means to trust that the Bible has all the answers and truths we need to live a holy and pleasing life before Godwe don't need anything beyond what God has provided for us in His Word (see 2 Peter 1:3 ).