FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. CINDY: Sunday. Way down on the floor. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. FLOTHE: Youre positive. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. Hudgens: Thats always been the goal. And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. Ducks and birds. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! CINDY: He has kind of darkish, brownish hair. CINDY: The same person. The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. Some people dont care to dive into it, but its the reason that I do this. And he had called me and I slept through it. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! FLOTHE: Um hmm. Hudgens: It was so helpful. Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. All rights reserved. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. CINDY: It wasnt painted. Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. This is Sunday night or early Monday morning? Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Others have never been found. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. Cause that was the smallest he had. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: How did you know this? A woman accused Hansen of rape in 1971, even as he awaited trial in a separate incident for following a stranger to her Spenard home and trying to kidnap her at gunpoint, according to Anchorage Daily News reports at the time. CINDY: No. It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. FLOTHE: Hairstyle? The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. Just him by himself. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? On his terms. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. A metallic green Buick Century. CINDY: Uh huh. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. He joined the ADN in 2004. CINDY: It was a really dark color. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. You see, when we was driving I observed everything. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. CINDY: Uh huh. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. There. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. FLOTHE: Friday morning. Im a little confused about when the airplane seat got in and out of the car. (inaudible) CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. He never learned her real name, he said. Do not sell or share my personal information. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. Only reason I know was cause I was layin there. CINDY: Um hmm. He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. FLOTHE: OK. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. CINDY: Um hmm. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. Police suspected the real death toll was even higher. FLOTHE: I hope not. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. CINDY: Up to the house. Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. (inaudible). Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Thats not all he said, of course. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. CINDY: All right. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. I just want to do everything. And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. (pause) As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. Hes amazing. FLOTHE: In your face? Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. Apparently youre bothered by this? FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. Hes got like frog warts on his face. 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: No. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. Required fields are marked *. Together they entertained colleagues at their home. CINDY: On. I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. "We nabbed him before he could do any damage to anyone.". Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. (crying) FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number CINDY: Nope. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. My left wrist, right there "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. He died in prison last month aged 75. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. Like a station wagon. So, that was nice. "Good riddance to him.". FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. She left the ADN in October 2018. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. And he suggested that we could go to his place. FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. CINDY: Um hmm. CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? It was just shocking and disturbing. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. FLOTHE: An older car. The work is being paid for by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a former forensic anthropologist for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is working for the center on the case. In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. Every time it was in my face. CINDY: Nope. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. You know, I was supposed to meet him. They look at them in a very specific way. And I was just running. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. He is just so punctual, and he always knows his lines, and hes there to get the job done. (pause) My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. FLOTHE: Really dark color. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. Uh huh. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: Uh huh The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. [Installment Three]. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. 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